Wednesday, December 6, 2017

Russia Banned From Winter Olympics by I.O.C. : https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/05/sports/olympics/ioc-russia-winter-olympics.html
Discussion Question(s):

President VladimirPutin expected a boycott of the 2018 olympics by other countries. Should other countries boycott or no? Why?

Should clean Russian Athletes be allowed to compete? Does it lessen the punishment to let some athletes compete?

Are the neutral jerseys that significant of a punishment if it means the athletes wearing them are from Russia? Or is the more significant punishment that the national anthem will not be played and no medals will be on record for Russia?

Because a doping case has never been this extensive and serious, the I.O.C. has never had to tender a punishment like this. Do you think that the punishment fit the crime? 

18 comments:

  1. No countries should be boycotting in favor of Russia, the doping that has been going on by Russian athletes is unacceptable and makes sense that they are banned from the olympics this coming year. In my opinion if there are Russians that are clean, meaning they are completely tested and there is nothing in their system, they should be allowed to compete as independent athletes. Russia should not be represented in the olympics this year because of this so that is why in my opinion the clean athletes should be representing no one, just an independent representation.

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  2. Other countries should not boycott the 2018 Olympics. This is because we should not take the fall for another country's violation, and should not support the use of drugs in what is supposed to be a competition based on skill and merit instead of the amount of steroids being taken. I do not think the Russian althetes should be allowed to compete in this year's Olympics. It causes an unfair advantage and allows them to continue to dope up with no limitations.

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  3. The fact is that Russia cheated, so a punishment being set forward is not a question. I believe that the penalty set forward is a good one, and a fair one as well. Clean Russian athletes should be allowed to compete, because it was their country that made the mistake, not them. And making them compete for themselves and not Russia is good because Russia will receive no medals, and the competition will still be the same height as previous years. The fact that Russia will not be getting any glory from the Olympics officially is a good thing, but I don't know whether they will receive unofficial glory if their champions win. I think people will still give them some, so maybe there is a way to stop that too while keeping the clean athletes in the Olympics.

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  4. I think that it would be fair to let the clean competitors from Russia to compete. Although Russia is going against the rules and regulations of the Olympics, which has always been made clear, by using dopamine in order to enhance their performances in the Olympic games, it is not fair to ban all of the athletes from Russia. There are some athletes, just like the rest of the world, in Russia that work hard and dedicated their entire lives to training naturally and legally in order to play in the Olympic games and represent their country by doing so. Banning all of the athletes from Russia is too controversial and should not be done. I think that although there are a lot of athletes from Russia that have gone against the rules and regulations of the Olympic Games, the most fair option that can be offered is for the legal and drug-free athletes to be able to pay and for Russia to still be able to take medals back for their country. Having less or worse athletes in the game is a fair and harsh punishment as it is, it is unnecessary to take away everything from Russia for the next four years in history.

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  5. I don't feel any other countries should boycott the 2018 Olympics. Doping of any kind, especially in the olympics is a serious matter. What those athletes did is selfish and unfair and they deserve punishment. As for Russian athletes who did not participate in doping of any kind, I feel they should be allowed to participate. They've worked tirelessly for years to get to compete, and for them to be disqualified because of other athletes actions, is unfair.

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  6. I dont think that any other countries should boycott the Olympics because of what Russia did. They broke the rules of the tournament, and have been fairly punished for what they did. Other countries should see the punishment that Russia received and make sure that nothing like it ever happens to their own players/nation. Russia was fairly punished for the rules they broke, and even though it may seem unfair now, this punishment will help clean the sport of any cheating in the future with this set as a precedent.

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  7. I think that the neutral jersey's that athletes would have to wear if they wanted to compete isn't as detrimental as not having their flag flown and national anthem played. The main goal of a country in the Olympics, is to show their athletic ability and then competing with other countries. When athletes are striped of their countries name then the country loses both its athletic standing and respect from competition. So not having your national anthem played during the Olympics is in essence restricting a countries ability to show off.

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  8. No other country should boycott the olympic games as a result of what happened to Russia. I understand that the athletes would be disappointed because they cannot compete for their country, but they are still given the permission to compete. The punishment should serve as a warning to other nations that they will be punished if they carry out similar actions. The punishment seems a little harsh. However, this should deter this sort of scandal from happening in the future. I feel bad for the individuals that are clean, but cannot compete for their country and have to compete under a neutral flag if they wish to participate. I feel that the athlete that are clean should be allowed to compete for their country though.

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  9. I think that it is only fair to let the clean Russian athletes participate in the 2018 winter olympics because they didn't do anything wrong. They shouldn't be punished along with the athletes who did illegal activities. I don't think it would lessen the punishment because if the clean Russian athletes wore "neutral" jerseys than it would still fall within the guidelines of the punishment given saying that "Russia can not be allowed to be represented at the 2018 winter olympics." Overall, clean Russian athletes should be allowed to participate in the 2018 winter olympics.

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  10. No other countries should be boycotting the olympic games because of Russia's doping violations. The athletes who are clean can still compete as an individual because they have worked hard for years for a chance at the olympics. Russia should not be in the olympics to serve as an example for years to come, that anyone who violates the rules has to pay the price.

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  11. As of right now I believe that Russia should not be able to participate in the 2018 Olympic games in Pyeongchang this February. In addition, I believe that people have no right to boycott for the Russian Olympic team to play in the games. This is because it is completely unacceptable and immature for the state to violate the rule against the use of performance enhancing substances (doping). And the punishment they received for committing this offense, suits the crime very well. To be honest, it may even be too light of a punishment. Although, I believe that it is right and just to test all of these athletes who have worked hard to be where they are today and see if they didn't violate the enhancement substance abuse law. If the results come back negative I agree with the officials that the athletes can compete but not be represented by their home nation of Russia.

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  12. Russia received the punishment that they deserved. The country was going through economic difficulties after oil prices dropped, and national attitudes were decreasing. The country was looking to increase their pride with a strong olympic performance, and they were willing to do it at all costs. This mentality can not work with the structure of the olympics. The severe punishment demonstrates reflects the gravity of the situation. I think that allowing clean athletes competes makes sense, because it would not be fair to punish the athletes that did not engage in doping. However, by forcing these athletes to compete as individuals without their countries colors, it damages the pride of the country and the athletes. Similarly, I think not playing the anthem is just another point. The actions of the IOC work to remove medal counts and work at hurting the Russian culture, which leave a lasting impact on the sporting world and the country, so that it hopefully will never happen again.

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  13. I think clean Russian athletes should be allowed to compete during the 2018 Olympics because they shouldn't be necessarily punished for the wrongdoing of certain other individuals. This isn't like college or professional sports, where all athletes collectively represent an organization or school, these athletes are representing a country. Even though this is a situation that has a governing body like the IOC, it doesn't seem that athletes that have been preparing for these competitions for 4 years or longer should be penalized for the irresponsible decisions that other athletes made. I do think that the punishment of placing Russian athletes in neutral jerseys is an okay punishment logically, but it would definitely detract from all the Russian viewers, and then the Olympics would lose lots of viewership from a huge audience. For that reason, the IOC should let Russia compete in their own uniforms but they should maybe just not count any medals to their official overall medal count.

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  14. I do not think other countries boycott the 2018 games because of Russia's doping violations. Theres no reason for other countries to take the blame for another countries mistakes. Also, it would be extremely unfair to the athletes because they work for four years just for these games. And for a country to take that away for something they didn't do is ridiculous. Also I do think clean Russian athletes should be able to participate in some fashion. In the same way as other countries boycotting, these athletes work for four years for these months of games and to take that away for other peoples actions is unfair.

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  15. I think that Russian athletes who did not do any doping in the midst of the Russian doping scandal should be allowed to participate in the 2018 olympic games. Those athletes didn't do anything wrong and try and cheat, but some athletes and doctors who also helped represent their country made their country look bad. The athletes who didn't do anything are getting some of the blame for doping even though they didn't do anything wrong. They should be able to participate since they have their own goals and they may never go to the olympics after this year. Going to the olympics is something barely anyone one gets to do.

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  16. I think that clean Russian athletes should be allowed to compete especially since they didn't do anything wrong. However, even if they didn't use doping, if they were affiliated with it or aided other athletes they should be banned. But the athletes who were clean have been working their entire lives for this moment and it shouldn't be taken away because of other people's actions that have no effect on them. I also think that the neutral jerseys are punishment because they train all throughout their lives to represent their country in the Olympics and thats being taken away for other people's actions.

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  17. I think that the clean Russian athletes should not be allowed to complete in 2018 Olympics. Even though they didn't dope, the olympics is a team sport where the countries best athletes ALL take the stage together. I think that if only a few athletes come it would ruin the tradition and history of the olympics. I do think that neutral jerseys is a punishment because you work your whole life to play with your countries name on your chest, not just a white jersey.

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  18. I believe that the clean Russian athletes should be allowed to compete in the 2018 Olympics. Those athletes have worked so hard their entire life and it is unfair for them to be punished for other people's actions who happen to be from the same country. The International Olympic Committee should allow the clean athletes to represent their country and only doped athletes can't compete. I think wearing a neutral uniform is a pretty significant punishment, but not having a flag displayed at opening ceremony and no anthem is a more severe punishment that is pretty fair for what they did. I think that in order for the IOC to keep other countries from doing this action, the punishment must be this severe to show how wrong it is. The clean Russian athletes will be able to compete and show their skills, and even though they will have a neutral uniform (which people will know is Russia because it is the only one), they will still be representing their country.

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